They were able to get a peace with russia and a sizable amount of land as they entered into a civil war. Germany had convinced the usa to aid her as opposed to aiding the allies. Differences of class, religion, and politics seemed to disappear as germans flocked to their city centres to show their enthusiastic support for the impending conflict. The germans, under rommel, could have taken most of the middleeast and then moved on to india. So, was it ever possible for germany to win world war ii. Did nazi germany ever stand a chance of winning ww2. Probably the most plausible way hitler could have won the war, the strategy with the best chance of success.
Apr 25, 2011 1,459 words hitlers britain echo bridge home entertainment, 2008 hitlers britain aka hitlers victory is a 2002 british television documentary created by londonbased lion television, an independent production company, describing the consequences of a hypothetical german victory over britain in world war ii. One of hitlers talking points about the war was that germany was betrayed, by communist and jews, an. How hitler could have won world war ii by bevin alexander examines how the intersection of hitlers personality and military strategy was critical in germany losing the war. This conversation is an out of character ooc part of the roleplay. Along with the german capture of the bef at dunkirk, this almost certainly would have caused britain to accept hitlers generous junejuly 1940. How nazi germany could have won the war in the west get. Alternate history what if germany had won world war i. At this point in the war, there was not much germany could do to change the final outcome. How hitler could have won world war ii by bevin alexander. No one can say for certain which result would have won out in the end.
The resources used in the battle of the bulge, in my opinion, should have been used in the east to fend of the russians. I know theres alot of books about nazi germany winning and the turtledove series following the uscs had the usgermany winning world war i setting the stage for a nazicsa, but does anyone know of any books where germany wins world war i. These underwater microphones played an important part in combatting the submarine threat. Yet germany nearly captured paris in 1914, crushed serbia and. Top 10 ways the nazis could have won world war ii listverse. Germany continue to bomb british airfield despite churchill trying to trick hitler to change his target. In a way, this is a more interesting hypothesis than the more commonly asked question about what the world would be like if the germans had won world war ii. Just as in the first world war, the us plus most of the rest of the western hemisphere and the british empire would have eventually won a war of attrition. Mar 01, 2017 yes, we can say germany almost won ww1. This was industrial war on a global scale that left almost no country untouched, and that ravaged much of. How germany could have won world war i the national interest. And is it possible that a country like iran could do the same.
Sep 03, 2014 consequently, chamberlain announced at around 11. Would europe be a better place to live if germany had won the war. Looking at the current crisis germany seems by far to be the best run country in. Even though germany gained japan as an active ally, she was doubly doomed. As mentioned before the spring offensive of 1918 was a point where germany at least seemed to get close to a final victory in the war. On the other hand, if the german grand strategy had been followed and carried out by. Jul 21, 2008 i seem to remember somebody mentioning a what if fiction book that looked back at wwii after the fact, written as if germany had won wwii. Was it ever possible for germany to win world war ii.
Mar 07, 2017 today we talk about a huge change to our collective histories in. New amazon show wonders what life would be like if germany won world war 2. Filming took place during the autumn of 1966 in the german state of lower. Was germany almost guaranteed to lose world war ii after hitler declared war on the united states. How hitler almost won wwii by ryan terhune on prezi. First, qualitative differences between the combatants proved more important in determining the war s outcome than have the. Millions had been killed, gassed, maimed, or starved. The germans could have won in 1914 they almost did, and 1915 and 1916 if things had gone different. Whether victory to you is defined as a crucial military success, or the achievement of your war aims, there is valid points for both sides of the argument.
Hypothetical axis victory in world war ii wikipedia. May 08, 2014 how germany could have won world war i. My father was an engineer, and he had many friends in germany, and he spoke highly of german people. German history after 1918 would have been a competition between the two. The german economy could not keep up with needed industry food supplies. He then paused for almost 5 seconds, letting the crushing reality of those words sink. Most wars by their very nature tend to be morally ambiguous. Today we talk about a huge change to our collective histories in.
A new history of the second world war in europe challenges this conventional wisdom. The bombing campaign virtually destroyed the rail network hampering transport of any munitions. Map by morgan hauser via wikimedia what if hitler and the nazis had won world war ii. Taking an entirely new perspective on explaining the second world war in europe, and its outcome, at its core why germany nearly won offers the reader three interrelated. This was a war, ribbentrop ruefully concluded, that germany could have won. Blitzkrieg surrounded the allies with armor poised to strike no. And what might 20thcentury europe have been like if it had. Obviously, it would have been dominated and shaped by germany. Europe would have been different if germany had won in 1918. David cameron visits the graves of first world war soldiers in zonnebeke, belgium. Put simply, the british and french military establishment had won the last war, and so their attitude was basically we should fight the next war the same way, only better. How hitler could have won world war ii is a nice read and can be interesting at times, particularly in the opening chapters, before falling sharply into mediocrity. Germany controls almost all of europe, except for fascist italy, spain and portugal. How i won the war is a 1967 british black comedy film directed and produced by richard lester, based on a novel of the same name by patrick ryan.
The firing stopped on november 11, 1918, but modern war technology had changed the course of civilization. By then after 3 years of all out war the british naval economic blockade had really hurt them. Establishment historians characterize national socialist germany as a uniquely barbaric, vile and criminal regime that was totally responsible for starting world war ii and carrying out. Just yesterday there was a thread where the concensus was that if modern day north korea joins the ww2 axis they cant affect the outcome of wwii or change it in any significant way at all because they have a low gdp.
Steam workshop fuhrerreich what if germany lost ww1. Turtledove did have a book wherein germany won wwi. Then digging in and a slow and bloody war of attrition along the lines established in those first frantic weeks. Why germany nearly won challenges todays conventional wisdom explaining germany s second world war defeat as inevitable primarily for brute force economic or military reasons created when germany attacked the soviet union. Several historians have noted that both world wars should really be considered a single. They always act as if the united states won world war ii and also saved the. Get your kindle here, or download a free kindle reading app.
A definitive book hypothesing how hitler could have won is war is still to be written without going into xfiles nonsense of nazi flying saucers. Jun 05, 2017 like much historiography of world war 2 it is generally assumed that germany could not have won world war 1. I believe some tanks are able to travel on water, since most british ships are on the north side of the country, tanks can land on the south side of england with the protection of germany navy and fighters. This is a list of wars involving germany since unification in 1871. What role would a german empire have played in the cold war. It is quite possible that britain might have declared war on germany anyway, just to prevent a single power from dominating the continent, and to. Aside from that i dont see how germany could have won wwii.
I seem to remember somebody mentioning a what if fiction book that looked back at wwii after the fact, written as if germany had won wwii. Both had gambled on a war that was quick, with decisive victories that would win them. Or could it have been the germany with the massive labor movement in early 20 th century europe. A new history of the second world war in europe challenges this conventional wisdom in highlighting how the reestablishment of the traditional german art of warupdated to accommodate new weapons systemspaved the way for germany to forge a considerable military edge over its much larger potential rivals by playing to its qualitative strengths as a continental power. Given the considerable advantages her enemies had in manpower, industry, resources, finance, and naval power, as well as her obvious crushing defeat in 1918, it can be hard to fathom how she could have triumphed. Apr 20, 2012 the germans could have won in 1914 they almost did, and 1915 and 1916 if things had gone different. The 2nd war, which started when hitler declared war on the usa they obviously lost, at least in the shortterm. The film stars michael crawford as bungling british army officer lieutenant earnest goodbody, with john lennon in his only nonmusical role, as musketeer gripweed, jack macgowran musketeer juniper, roy kinnear musketeer clapper and lee montague. How did the german military go from weak to almost taking over europe in wwii. One thing that could be said if germany won in the end. A new history of the second world war in europe reprint edition.
Would a united europe run by germany have stopped america dominating the world in the way it has over the last 50 years. In february 1945, fdr, churchill, and stalin met at yalta on the black sea in whats now the crimean portion of russia formerly ukraine. Getting britain out of the war, as early as possible, would have been a major success. Would we be speaking german and would that be a bad thing.
How i won the war is a 1967 british black comedy film directed and produced by richard. Oct 24, 2017 the mod starts in 1936 and contains extensive lore of what the world would look like if germany had been defeated in ww1. Also a bit of a somewhat unrelated rant, most the people at rwhowouldwin are fucking idiots when it comes to military matters. If they win a short war in 1914, with the schlieffen plan the plan to quickly defeat the french first to avoid fighting on two fronts working, its different than if they win a negotiated victory after a long, hard fight at the end of 1916 or early in 1917, which is the other possibility.
The odds were always stacked against nazi germany and imperial japan. German empire 18711918 weimar republic 19191933 nazi germany 19331945 federal republic of germany 1990. The mod includes unique figures such as adolf hitler and joseph stalin who did not exist when germany had won ww1. A hypothetical axis victory in world war ii has become a common concept of alternative history and counterfactual history. This was industrial war on a global scale that left almost no country untouched, and that ravaged much of the geographical and political climate. The first war had seen germany occupy almost all of belgium and a big chunk of northern france in those first weeks, and as a result the whole war in the west had been fought on allied territory, with devastating effect. Lieutenant goodbody is an inept, idealistic, naive, and almost relentlessly. In both world wars this has provided a huge bone of contention for regular. The whole point of germany s warfare was to defeat russia. What would life be like for young men and woman in a world 70 years after a nazi victory. A look into why the germans could not pull a win out of the war with the realities they found themselves in. Taking an entirely new perspective on explaining the second world war in europe, and its outcome, at its core why germany nearly won offers the reader three interrelated, unique, and potentially groundbreaking arguments. Conventional wisdom explains german defeat during world war ii as almost inevitable, primarily for reasons of allied economic or military brute force created when germany attacked the soviet union in 1941 and entered into a twofront war. Why germany nearly won challenges todays conventional wisdom explaining germanys second world war defeat as inevitable primarily for brute force economic or military reasons created when germany attacked the soviet union.
I will not talk about likely, just about possible, and to that the answer is yes. The whole point of germanys warfare was to defeat russia. The first, a european war, lasted from september 1st, 1939 until september 30, 1941 i. The other thing to consider is who won the war in the long term. Numerous examples exist in several languages worldwide. A new history of the second world war in europe challenges this conventional wisdom in highlighting how the reestablishment of the traditional german art of warupdated to accommodate new weapons systemspaved the way for germany to forge a considerable military edge over its much larger potential rivals by playing to its qualitative strengths as. Pattons spaceship by john barnes part of the timeline wars series 1997. Like much historiography of world war 2 it is generally assumed that germany could not have won world war 1. Jump to navigation jump to search this is a list of wars involving germany since unification. Dec 25, 20 david cameron visits the graves of first world war soldiers in zonnebeke, belgium. On the other hand, if the german grand strategy had been followed and carried out by germany and japan, we could, very possibly, have lost the war, and today be speaking german on the east coast and japanese on the west coast. Such writings express ideas of what the world would be like had the axis powers of germany, italy, and japan won world war ii. The thing that stuck in my mind was that the tone, phrases, attitudes, etc of the book were of the winner writes history slant which would be. It entered the war because germany declared war on the united states after.
During the first days of world war i, many germans experienced a sense of bonding that had eluded them since the founding of the empire. What would have happened if germany had won world war i. This is perhaps the greatest historical what if of all time. When it comes to european history, world war 2 has to be the biggest and most infamous chapter and the one that we are all most familiar with. The allies also developed sonar, but it came too close to the end of the war to offer much help. Several nations have expansive focuses, as well as unique technologies and events. Yalta was a small, semidilapidated seaside town formerly enjoyed by. It is narrated by actor diego matamoros and directed by television director. If hitler had won world war ii wed have a better, more just world today. The thing that stuck in my mind was that the tone, phrases, attitudes, etc of the book were of the winner writes history slant which would be so odd to us today. I am under the belief that with the usa backing her germany could have pushed into the soviet union and at the very least fought her to a stalemate inside soviet territory. Oh, i almost forgot to mention that the postwar era also brought us to the.
But i dont think russians would have gone to war with germany. How did the german military go from weak to almost taking. This would have given them control over almost all of the nonenglish speaking world. Jan 29, 2017 if hitler had won world war ii wed have a better, more just world today. Of course, hitler did invade the ussr on 22 june 1941 and japan drew the us into the war on 7 december 1941. The mod starts in 1936 and contains extensive lore of what the world would look like if germany had been defeated in ww1. What really scary would be if the russian and the germans had made an alliance. Technology and the weapons of the first world war, 19141918. If germany had won the war, there can be little doubt what would have. The only other real point where the germans were close to this victory was during its first offensives in belgium and france.